A little update on the KDEPIM situation. Kontact sort of works now, but it feels slower than before. Even changing between Kontact's different modules is slower now. I think about not using Kontact at all, but its individual components, with their windows grouped together (a really cool feature of KDE4 which I often use). Well, it's not _really_ bad, switching takes 1-2 seconds, but it used to be instantaneous before, and I like to quickly peek into Akregator and back to see if there are new messages. Kontact's summary shows an over-due to-do item, but when I click on it, the to-do list is empty. Probably a migration problem, but why does it show up in the summary then? But I did not use this feature much, so I don't care about the lost entries. Quite often an IMAP folder still shows unread mails when I already had read them all. Selecting another folder and again the one with the unread mails usually fixes this. What I liked about the old KMail was that I could open folders in tabs. The problem with this was that folders opened in tabs did not get checked for new mail, I hoped this would be fixed. But it seems this feature is gone now. I wanted to see if distribution lists work with the new Kontact - they did not with the old one, a mail to TESTGROUP would not go to the email addresses of this group's members, but TESTGROUP@myserver.mydomain. But when I open the address book and enter a new group, the new KMail does not know about this group and will not autocomplete. Seems like KMail does not know about any of my contacts. I do not understand at all how this works. I still have the contacts in my address book, so the migration has worked for them, but when I open the settings, they show the location as ~/.kde4/share/apps/kabc/stdvcf, and this directory is empty. So all this stuff is in Akonadi's mysql database now? What's the purpose of this empty directory? When moving messages from my inbox to another folder, they often (but not always) still show up, but grayed out. I already know this behavior from some other mail clients I tried, except for the old KMail and Thunderbird, it can be fixed by logging into my IMAP server and running mutt. When quitting, I am asked whether to purge the deletes messages. I wonder what I could do if I had not shell access to the server. Today I unsubscribed from the ubuntu-users list which I do not read anyway, and because of the 250M this folder takes on the IMAP server, I decided to delete it. I also wanted to verify if bug 239859 still happens, KMail used to crash when deleting IMAP folders while still having it open. Well, what do you think happened? Right, Kontact took ages deleting this, became unresponsive, after half an hour I killed the process. akonadi_imap_re still was quite busy. When starting Kontact again, a composing window with an unfinished mail opened, but not the main window. So I killed Kontact again. I stopped the Akonadi server, restarted it, and now Kontact was working again. Again, I tried to delete the huge mailing list folder, and this time I waited for about two hours. Kontact was still usable, but very slow, and the KMail part did not display mails. akonadi_imap_re used about 40% of CPU resources, having an accumulated total time of an hour now. This process uses a lot of CPU resources even when I do nothing with Kontact, same goes for mysql. Finally, I got an error message, the folder could not be deleted. So I deleted it with Thunderbird, which did the job in seconds. KMail still showed the folder and its contents, but after a restart it is finally gone. Sometimes I get notifications like this from my IMAP server: <server>: Saving failed, server replied: A015537 BAD Invalid system flag \RECENT. This just happened when changing into a folder that has a new mail. This morning, I had some similar message, but it told me about some conflicting flags on the IMAP server, and asked whether to keep version A, version B or both. I was in a hurry so I did not notice what the problem was exactly. I think I kept both. Now, when I select this folder again, I get this message, every time: <server>: Remote id is empty or invalid. And the folder has no entries. Restarting KMail and Akonadi does not help. At least I can still view it with Thunderbird. Oh, and after this last restart, the folder view shows one unread mail in the drafts folder. When I select this folder, there is only one mail, grayed out, it's the former draft of this mail I am just composing now. There are other drafts, but they only show up in Thunderbird, not in KMail. I logged out and in, and now my drafts are back. The other folder is still empty, but I do no longer get the 'Remote id is empty or invalid' when selecting it. Wow, this became longer than I thought. Now I just read that KDEPIM 4.6.1 has been released, let's see if this will improve things, I guess Gentoo will have it soon. If not, I will delete my account and re-create it, with IMAP and the mails not being local this should do no harm. Maybe I should report some bugs on bugs.kde.org instead of writing here, but this would be a lot of reports. Maybe when I have more time than now. And then, I wonder if it is really only me seeing these problems. Shouldn't the KDEPIM devs see most of them already and hopefully do something about it? Wonko ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.