On Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 03:16:34PM +0000, Duncan wrote: > kde posted on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:31:16 +0000 as excerpted: > Perhaps part of the problem for your seniors is kde's session management. > If they quit kde with several app instances running and kde restarts them > when it comes back up, but they don't understand that, they may be > starting a new instance each time, not thinking that kde might have > remembered what was running the last time and restarted it, so the > instances gradually build up... > > Of course, you can make kde start with a clean session each time, if you > wish. That would cure that issue. > > But what about going about it from the other angle? Have kde start all > the apps they need, then save that as their session, and hide the > launcher, so all they have is the taskbar. You could take the close > button off the title bar too, making it more difficult to close the apps, > and if they did, they'd only have to restart kde to have the pre-set > session come back with all their apps. > > It may or may not work in practice, but it's certainly thinking about the > problem from "outside the box". Reverse the problem and it goes away. =:^) Would this be a workable approach for the OP - wrap the app launch in a generalized mechanism, let's call the mechanism Larry (as I abhor the imprecision that comes with "it", and have no better name). Larry handles each attempted application launch for the seniors. Here's what I envision happening: Larry looks at the proposed app, and if that app has one or more running instances, display a dialog, with a suitably large font, with a clickable list that distinguishes each running instance of the app. At one end of the list, distinguished visually in some way from other items in the list, is a "nope, none of these, start a fresh new instance" list item. Clicking a list item or using the arrow keys and the enter-key would switch to that instance or launch a new instance of the app. Larry should have a way to back-out of any action at all - "cancel". And a Help button that has both an icon (I favor a question mark) and a (largish) text label to go with it. Larry could be assembled using bash, kdialog, and some tools such as xmumble and grep, right? (Mumble is a place-holder for an actual executable name. This isn't a fully worked example). #!/bin/bash itemlist=`xmumble | grep mumble | sort | ...` myitem=$(kdialog --menu "Click what you want" $itemlist) # activate the selection or launch new app /usr/bin/mumble myitem ... -- Charles Polisher ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.