Thanks, Duncan, I've certainly "bisected" ~/.kde enough times to know that the setting is most likely in ~/.kde/share/config. I've even narrowed it down to powerdevilprofilesrc I think. But I want to be sure that there is in fact no way to configure this the right way before I start surgery. I support quite a few users and I've learned that solving an issue the right way the first time makes me appear much more professional the next time. In any case, since when is KDE for "users"? Ever since KDE 4.0 was released the attitude is that KDE is not intended for u"users" so I don't understand what this sudden outburst of "remove an option in the user's interest" is, especially as it leaves users stuck. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.