Thanks for the explanations. I tried many things now, sometimes a few icons showed up (eg. klipper) but not all of them. I have to stay with kde-panel for now, but the lack of configurability make me cry. You can't even adjust the iconsize of an application launcher or the size of the clock's text. That's really a pain in the a.. if you wan't to use a vertical panel. Regards, C ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.