Anne Wilson posted on Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:45:07 +0000 as excerpted: > In fact the developers have given way, much against their better > judgement, to some of these complaints. One obvious example is in > providing the folderview desktop. Originally it was a statement of fact > that the plasma desktop was not the same as a 3.5 desktop, and if you > wanted quick access to it you should use the folderview that is provided > when the standard desktop starts up. So many people complained that > they couldn't fit all their files and trash-cans onto that limited view > that in the end the developers came up with an alternative desktop that > acts almost as though it were a 3.5 desktop. Of course it is really a > folderview containment filling the whole screen, but if users wanted > that to be their desktop view it was made easy for them. While I personally don't like a desktop full of icons, I know some people do. I understand their view (well, to some extent), and thus believe bringing back the folderview-desktop was a very good thing. Now it may be that over time most of these users will migrate to the fuller-featured desktop that plasma was designed to be. Great. But there's some validity to the "too much, too fast" refrain, and there's enough changes in kde4 in general, that particularly for a certain apparently large segment of the kde-using population, letting them have their familiar desktop until they in their own time adjust to the other changes and feel ready to tackle the desktop changes, is a very good thing, so I'm very glad the devs ultimately reversed course and put it back as an option. A similar thing happened for MS back with MS Windows 95, only they were smart enough (and had enough of those dead presidents accumulated to invest in doing the user studies to demonstrate it) to realize it before release, and throw the clearly inferior (from their way of thinking, but not to many of the users at the time) Windows 3.1 "fileman.exe" and 'progman.exe" (file manager and program manager aka desktop) in as well. They didn't extend them for long filenames, but those who were using them were used to the short names anyway, and MS did make sure these programs at least wouldn't corrupt the lfns. But by MSWormOS 98 (if I'm not mistaken, that has been awhile...), and I think for 95 OSR2 before that, only a very few people were still using those outdated programs, and they could and did drop them. It's possible, even likely, that had kde done the same thing for 4.0 (when honestly, a lot of plasma was pretty crude anyway, as that was pretty much a libraries API freeze release with just enough UI wrapped around it to demonstrate a few basics and provide a platform to develop on and plasma was one of the less mature bits of the UI as unlike most of the other apps, it was 100% new code, so a low-feature folderview desktop would have fit in reasonably well)... ... If kde had done the same thing for 4.0 that MS did with 95, shipping the folderview desktop as a bridge, by say 4.6 or 4.8 or some such, likely, few enough folks would have been using it that it could have been removed without too much of a fuss. But as it wasn't in the early versions and that caused such a stink then, because of all the folks that needed a slower change, the sensitivity is raised, some of the folks that had it yanked away for a time (and otherwise felt deceived by the early kde4 fiasco) aren't going to easily let it go now, and there's likely to be a far bigger stink if it's removed... at least if it's removed before something like 4.15... than there would have been if it had been there as a proper bridge during the early and early-middle kde4 adoption phases. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.