I'm jumping in on this one also. All of you that have been using KDE4 for a while and want to attack the new KDE4 users take a chill pill. For those of us that only moved to KDE4 recently, it is a big change and confusing. I moved to the new KDE4 by choice about two months ago, but did not know what I was getting into. Now I am settled and the DE works for me. Next time someone posts a semi-b_tch post don't attack them, maybe they are just frustrated and need some direction to get passed the shock and confusion. Not all posts that appear to attack KDE4 are trolls, FUD or some other negative. They are people just venting out of frustration. I watched this list for a long time when KDE4 came out and I decided to just stay where I was for at least a year. I should have waited longer, but I didn't, I am here now and I will stay. ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.