Brendan wrote: > On Wednesday 18 March 2009, James Richard Tyrer wrote: >> Samuel Kage wrote: >>> Currently I'm running KDE 4.2.1 on Opensuse, which is known for >>> making one of the best KDE packages. Even though I'm really sad >>> about the stability of KDE these days. For explaining why, i want >>> to describe a common use case for me an many many other users. >> Yes, KDE has a quality problem. I say this as someone that has >> been > > Oh lord, does this thread ever die? > > KDE is great software. I said that it would be great software if it worked. But, the current release has an unstable desktop with serious usability issues. When you say that that is great, you become part of the problem. > The way to fix the bugs in OSS is to get people to work on things > they don't want to and aren't sexy...like bugs. In what aberrant universe buggy software sexy? I don't think that most users find buggy software to be sexy. Quality is one of the great advantages we should have over commercial software. > If you can't, you hire people to do the un-sexy work. Since KDE can't > do that, the situation will remain as it is, I would imagine. > I guess that I will have to get into Skinnerian psychology. People aren't really as complicated as you think. People will do what they receive positive reinforcement for doing. Actually, I would like to think that it is a question of personal responsibility -- if developers have a strong sense of personal responsibility, then they feel the need to have their code work 100% correctly. But, this isn't really the case. If developers receive positive reinforcement for witting glamorous apps that are 70% to 90% functional, then that is what is going to continue to happen. Paying people is just a type of positive reinforcement, so what is needed is to change the contingencies of non-financial reinforcement. Perhaps we need more perfectionists (but they will not get along easily with non-perfectionists). Or, as I said, people with a strong sense of personal responsibility that feel that their software isn't finished till it works correctly. We have some of these people and I admire their work as well as their work ethic. In either case, we need more people, but how are we going to integrate these new people into a culture where sloppy work is not only tolerated by actually praised? -- JRT Linux (mostly) From Scratch ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.