Re: KDE 3.5.10 and KDE 4.2.1 applications /directories

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On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Rajko M. <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 March 2009 03:16:31 am Dotan Cohen wrote:

>> > That's what I meant - SuSE is gradually substituting some parts of KDE 3
>> > with parts of KDE 4, or mixing them, or their install system does not
>> > work correctly, anyway you get two System settings, and you don't know
>> > any more what is controling what. I have in my "K-menu" both "System
>> > settings (Configure Desktop)" -> kcontrol (KDE 3) and  "System settings
>> > (Configure Desktop)" -> systemsettings (KDE 4). You can start both at the
>> > same time and guess at who controls what. When I run "System settings", I
>> > get for some tools (like Configure the window behaviour) a "shared
>> > library not found".
>> >
>> > So the whole thing is a mess. They will justify it by the fact that 3.5.x
>> > is in the "other" choice of graphical environments, while the "official"
>> > and "stable" choice is 4.2.

>
> I've seen people trying synonyms, or typing something, anything, and expecting
> that computer will magically guess what they want.
>
> Not that openSUSE kickoff couldn't have 2 incarnations, for each KDE one, but
> people would find reason to complain anyway.

It was a question to the KDE Mail List, that I was unable to solve (hence mailed out), _not a rant/complain_.
As such, on the whole I am happy with both versions of KDE, particularly since KDE 4 (using KDE 4.2.1 with Qt 4.5) has improved & has become much more stable than earlier.

>
> Regards, Rajko

I found a possible pointer on this page- http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4#Installation (under "KDE3 and KDE4")

To prevent the accidental starting of KDE4 applications within a KDE3 session add at the top of /opt/kde3/bin/startkde

PATH=/opt/kde3/bin:${PATH/:\/opt\/kde3\/bin} export PATH


However, my /opt/kde3/bin/startkde file has that entry at the top:

#!/bin/sh
#
#  DEFAULT KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-3.5.10 )
#

PATH=/opt/kde3/bin:${PATH/:\/opt\/kde3\/bin}
export PATH
test -x /usr/bin/xrandr && /usr/bin/xrandr --auto
# When the X server dies we get a HUP signal from xinit. We must ignore it
# because we still need to do some cleanup.
trap 'echo GOT SIGHUP' HUP

# Check if a KDE session already is running
if kcheckrunning >/dev/null 2>&1; then
    echo "KDE seems to be already running on this display."
    xmessage -geometry 500x100 "KDE seems to be already running on this display." > /dev/null 2>/dev/null
    exit 1
fi

# Set the background to plain grey.
# The standard X background is nasty, causing moire effects and exploding
# people's heads. We use colours from the standard KDE palette for those with
# palettised displays.
if test -z "$XDM_MANAGED" || echo "$XDM_MANAGED" | grep ",auto" > /dev/null; then
  : # xsetroot -solid "#C0C0C0"
fi

# we have to unset this for Darwin since it will screw up KDE's dynamic-loading
unset DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE

Also, this problem persisted after I did an upgrade of KDE 3.5.10 (2 days back) from the KDE 3.5.x Repo's listed here- http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Repositories#KDE_3.5.x.

Jay

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