> > :0 > > OK, good. Just checking if it is a non-tcp connection, i.e. not > containing "localhost" or $HOSTNAME Whew. :) > > > Another thing you could try is to start just xterm and then run startkde > > > inside it, i.e. > > > > > > startx /usr/bin/xterm > > > > > > Should start the X server and just xterm as the only window. You'll need > > > to move the mouse cursor over the window to allow keyboard input. > > > > That worked, but no cigar. I see KDE's splash screen loader and it > > blinks at the first icon (wheel) with "Setting up interprocess > > communication" like I did in Gnome. After a minute or two, this splash > > screen goes away and xterm is still showing "startkde: Starting up..." > > At that stage it tries to start the DCOP server and a couple of other things. > Though starting a KDE application from outside KDE also does this and that > seems to work. Yeah, but not startkde. ;) Is that considered an application? > > Here's a strace from second attempt inside xterm: > > http://pastebin.ca/783688 (looks the same). Does startkde have a debug > > feature? > > You can run kdebugdialog and see if the entry for "ksmserver" is checked. > Should output to .xsession-errors or the xterm, depending on how you start it. Goodie. Maybe we're getting somewhere. I checked ALL options (forgot to see if ksmserver was checked already or not -- sorry) and ran startkde from Gnome's terminal (did this twice in two different X sessions to be sure): $ startkde startkde: Starting up... ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 12634, errno = 95 ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 12636, errno = 0 WARNING: DCOP communication problem! kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! <<I hit my enter key a few times (was frustrated) in Gnome terminal and it threw more messages in Gnnome terminal; I couldn't reproduce this through startx though and I don't know if these are valid and useful errors to us>> kbuildsycoca running... kwin: unable to claim manager selection, another wm running? (try using --replace) ASSERT: "!name.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdelibs-3.5.8.dfsg.1/./kio/kio/kdirlister.cpp (969) add font path: '/home/ant/.fonts' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/latex-xft-fonts' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/sjfonts' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/dustin' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/kochi' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/type1' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/X11' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/X11/util' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi' add font path: '/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1' loaded font VeraMoBd/8 loaded font Vera/7 xscreensaver: 09:37:02: already running on display :0.0 (window 0x2200001) from process 12645 (ant@ANTian). Ooh, new valid errors (X server problem?)? Now what? I tried startx outside of X, but didn't see these errors (same ones as shown before). :/ Nothing odd in Xorg.0.log: # tail Xorg.0.log (**) Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 9 (**) Mouse0: Sensitivity: 1 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) (--) Mouse0: PnP-detected protocol: "ExplorerPS/2" (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded > Lets hope we can crack it :) Good morning (from my side)! We better. I am going to cry if I have to use another WM!! Gnome is driving me nuts. :( -- "One day he sprained an ankle rather than crush an ant." --Les Miserables /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phillip/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / E-mail: philpi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or ant@xxxxxxxxxx ( ) ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.