On Sunday 17 December 2006 22:45, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> On Sunday 17 December 2006 22:01, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > Konqueror. Debian Etch's Synaptic shows that Kdnssd is installed, which
> > has something to do with KDE, and zeroconf. I was going to remove it to
> > see if it fixed anything, but removing it, also wants to remove KDE
> > network, so that's a bit of a no-go.
>
> No, kdenetwork is just the meta package. Of course it will be removed if
> you remove one of its dependecies, but all other dependecies should still
> remain installed.
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin
Hi Kevin. After some frustrating hours the problem is resolved, and appears to
be a Debian thing.
There were as I've previously said many updates for Debian Etch, including all
the KDE stuff. When I rebooted, the bootup messages said
that /etc/network/options was deprecated, and to read the README of netbase
as below.
* /etc/network/options
This file is deprecated, and if present should be replaced by values
in /etc/sysctl.conf or equivalent custom scripts.
The relevant sysctl values are:
ip_forward=yes: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
spoofprotect=yes: net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter = 1
net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 1
syncookies=yes: net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies = 1
So I renamed /etc/network/options to /etc/network/options-deprecated, and
added the the lines in the netbase README to /etc/sysctl.conf.
Perhaps skipping a bit, Konqueror will no longer access the Internet, but
Opera, and Firefox will, and also KDE's superuser filemanager in webbrowser
mode will access the net ok, also no problems with Konsole and getting
updates using apt-get. the only problem is Konqueror.
Either you or someone else suggested setting up a new user, so I went for
that. No problems with the new user. Konqueror works just fine.
Skipping a lot more I thought about this deprecated file
in /etc/network/options, and the new entries in /etc/sysctl.conf, so I
commented out the new entries in /etc/sysctl.conf, and
renamed /etc/network/options to it's original name. Now logging into the new
user Konqueror cannot, repeat, cannot access the Internet.
So I uncomment the new entries in /etc/sysctl.conf, and
rename /etc/network/options, and now when logged into the new user Konqueror
works ok.
Allright, trying to solve this problem I've seriously messed with Konquerors
files in my original users userspace, and can find no way of resolving the
problem for the original user.
I'd already tried renaming .kde/share/config, then logging in again to recreat
it, but this didn't have any affect. As a last resort I renamed .kde. (I may
have done this in text mode, but I'm not sure cause I'm losing it a bit now).
Anyway logging out, and back in to KDE I now have a new .kde for my original
user, surprisingly complete with all my icons from the old .kde, but best of
all Konqueror now accesses the Internet ok.
I'm not convinced as too the problem that caused a denial of Internet access
for Konqueror, but anyway it works.
btw. If I create a new .kde for my original user, why does it bring back all
my icons from the old .kde. They were all bunched up on the left of the
screen, but were there, and all work. I'm gratefull for that, but thought
they would all be trashed on creating a new .kde.
The original entries in /etc/network/options were as below.
ip_forward=no
spoofprotect=yes
syncookies=no
# The above lines are deprecated. See /etc/sysctl.conf at bottom of file
This is the worst problem I've had with KDE/Debian in three years+ of working
with Linux and KDE. A while back I had a problem after updates, I think on
FC5, where I couldn't launch home, or konqueror on the desktop, and menu
items were missing, but running kbuildsycoca fixed that one.
Thanks for all the suggestions and help.
Nigel.
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