I believe this started happening after I upgraded to kde v3.5.1 so as to use Kopete, which was not accepting MSN connections in the version that shipped with FC4. Kopete now works fine, but ever since I have been getting crashes just after closing KDE windows or when other KDE-related applications close. For example, if I close Firefox, nothing happens. When I close Konqueror or Kopete or Kontact (or when I switch desktops and Kwebdesktop closes, etc...) I get a SIGABRT 6 error. Any ideas as to what I can do to fix this? I don't even know where to start. Should I post some error messages? Many thanks in advance. I'm running a heavily upgraded FC4 system on a Dell 2400. Kernel 2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.