More update -- It seems that kde lunches a copy of dbus without telling anyone. If I explicitly start dbus I have two copies of dbus-daemon-1 running and the icons disappear. If I don't start dbus, but only HAL (with udev and no devfs), the icons are there. On Tuesday 20 September 2005 15:26, Mike wrote: > Well -- > here is some update... > > I noticed that hotplug was not running as well as devfsd. So, I specified > to run them at boot time. After I restarted, the machine would go through > the boot fine except would not bring the graphical login screen. It would > just sit and wait for it to come up, but respond to keyboard: I could > switch to a terminal screen and type login name, but even there the process > would hang verifying the password. The whole mess was probably because of > the display manager (mdkkdm) confusion from those processes. > > Anyway, now I have devfsd, dbus running (no HAL, no hotplug and udev would > not run because of devfsd) and I got the icons! But the icons from the > panel are gone! I got what I wanted, but I'll try to get to the bottom of > this. > > Thanks to everyone for taking interest and suggestions. > > ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.