Hello, First off let me say thanks to the KDE development folks for a great desktop environment and a lot of fine applications. I have used WindowMaker for years but now find KDE irresistible. I am currently running KDE 3.4.1 on FC4. I have noticed a couple of unexpected behaviors while un-shading windows: 1) If a non-KDE app (xterm, firefox, etc.) is shaded and I un-shade it the widow returns to the full pre-shaded size. This, to me, seems normal. 2) Some KDE apps (konsole 1.5.1, kwrite 4.4) behave exactly as the non-KDE apps above. 3) When other KDE apps (Quanta plus [kdewebdev-3.4.1], kompare 3.4.1) are unshaded the window returns with a much diminished height. In fact the window un-rolls enough to show the top and bottoms borders, toolbars and about three lines of text in the body. 4) If I select (activate) a shaded window either from the panel or the Window List Menu the shaded receives focus but remains shaded. It would be nice if there where a way for the window to both receive focus and un-shade. Thanks for your time, Don -- Dr. Don Harden harden@xxxxxxx Department of Chemistry 564 NSC Georgia State University ph: (404) 651-3580 Atlanta, Ga. 30302 fax: (404) 651-1416 ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.