Hello, I am using a non-KDE window manager with the KDE Desktop Manager (KDM). I'd like to have the Window Manager tell KDM to shut down, without calling shutdown directly. Right now I use the fifo method for this: echo -e "shutdown\thalt\tforcenow" > ${XDM_MANAGED%%,*} As I heard, this is going to be removed from KDE 4. Is that right? And, what is the new method? -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.