ksystraycmd and kmail

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Hi,

I want to start kmail in the systray, but with no window opend.
If I do a "ksystraycmd --hidden kmail" , kmail gets startet , I have an icon 
in the systray, but the kmail-window is automaticaly open. Same problem with 
OpenOffice only kcalc works perfect. What did I wwrong?

thx

Thorsten
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