Hello All (Again) I know that there is great activity at the moment on kde3.4 but that's the reason I don't want to upgrade at the moment. I'm sure some one out there can help with this. Seems I need to upgrade libogg to 1.1.2 - in order to update a number of things on my machine. Basically my machine has libogg-devel installed on it and that needs libogg = 1.0- and to resolve conflicts I need to remove the following packages most of which relate to KDE in some way. These are: libvobis-devel libogg-devel kdebase3-devel kdelibs3-devel kdevelop3 My guess is that these all belong to the integrated development environment so no harm will be done? But just in case is the libogg upgrade likely to be backwards compatible? If so I could then just ignore the conflicts and force the install. It's interesting to note that a Suse 9.0 Packman upgrade of K3B also needs this update. This is one of the infuriating aspects of Linux in general. I love it but I think it's time the developers got to grips with this sort of thing. As a software engineer I know that's both boring and difficult BUT!! I would also love to know why K3B suddenly started toasting all types of data DVD's. The RW's don't even seem to be recoverable. (Under XP) Regards John ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.