Every time I log out of KDE to turn my computer off, Kicker and sometimes Konqueror crash. If I were to remove my ~/.kde directories, would that help? I still have them from when I was using 3.4.0-rc1. -- http://www.piku.org.uk - Outdoor Photos: http://www.piku.co.uk ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.