My apologies for sending to both lists but I am having a serious problem with the KDE Window Manager, KDE Control Panel, and/or X Windows. I am running SuSE 9.2 Professional. Initially, I thought that the problem was related to the latest update to the latest X Server update as I the window problem was observed after the update was applied. I reported this to SuSE/Novell. Initial Problem I use Pine as my mail application. When opened from the "Application" menu, it opens in a Konsole window with a geometry of 82x66. I have excerpts from log files on various systems that I support mailed to me. To view those messages without line wrap, I click the maximize button on the window frame. When I finish viewing the message, I click on the maximize button to restore the window to its original size. Not long after the patch was applied, I noticed that the window could no longer be restored to its original size. When the window was restored the geometry changed to 82x44. After repeatedly changing the Konsole window settings to 82x66, the window would, when initially opened, be the correct size; however, after being maximized, it would only be restored to a size of 82x44. Current Problem In frustration, I mucked about with the desktop appearance settings using the KDE Control Panel without much success in correcting the above problem. I did manage to introduce a new problem that leads me to believe that the problem is in kwin. When I log into the system. The "kicker" panel and the KDE "splash" panel are displayed. When the KDE "splash" panel closes, the visible portion of my desktop is in the top left corner of the screen and is exactly the same size as the KDE "splash" panel. Except for the "kicker" panel at the bottom, the rest of the screen is black. Any new window that is opened will be opened with the exact same size as the last window that had "focus". Now when Pine is activated, it has the same size as the "kicker" panel. The maximize/restore operation discussed in the initial problem has gone away. You can maximize a window and have it restored to the geometry it had before it was maximized. If you open a second window, it will be exactly the same size as the first window. The application's window geometry is ignored. This is a "per user" problem. It only occurs when using the KDE Window Manager. If you select another window manager when you login, the problem does not exist. If you login as another user that has not made any recent changes to his KDE Desktop configuration, the problem doesn't exist. The problem only seems to exist for users that have made changes after the following patches were made. kdebase3-51958 January 2005 kdelibs3-51960 January 2005 xorg-x11-libs-51973 January 2005 xorg-x11-server-52030 February 2005 Solutions I don't have any. It seems that one of the resource files is corrupted and needs to be manually changed to restore the correct behaviour. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to correct the problem? Merton Campbell Crockett -- BEGIN: vcard VERSION: 3.0 FN: Merton Campbell Crockett ORG: General Dynamics Advanced Information Systems; Intelligence and Exploitation Systems N: Crockett;Merton;Campbell EMAIL;TYPE=internet: mcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx TEL;TYPE=work,voice,msg,pref: +1(805)497-5045 TEL;TYPE=work,fax: +1(805)497-5050 TEL;TYPE=cell,voice,msg: +1(805)377-6762 END: vcard ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.