Hi, Im sorry for not getting back to the list sooner. Ive been busy. :-( Thanks for this long and detailed explanation! It solved my problem! And it taught me a whole lot about how X handles fonts. > > These directories are listed in: > > /etc/fonts/fonts.conf > /etc/fonts/local.conf > > It is recommended that you use scalable fonts. When i ran the above 'fc-cache -v' command, it listed all of the directories it was scanning for caching. A lot of things were missing i noticed. Including the directory used by X11 for storing its internal fonts! I added this line to the /etc/fonts/local.conf file: <dir>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts</dir> and then reran the 'fc-cache -v' command. This time a whole bunch of font directories were listed. I restarted Xorg and all of my fonts had returned. I have my beloved Helvetica back and konqueror renders beautifully again! Theres only one thing i dont understand though. The /etc/fonts/local.conf file was unchanged from kde-3.2 to kde-3.3 when i upgraded. kde-3.2 didnt need the extra line in /etc/fonts/local.conf to pick up all of the fonts before i upgraded, but now it does. Do you have any idea how that can be? Again thanks for your help! John > You can get Helvetica in the old Windows Adobe Acrobat Reader: > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ar302.exe > > You have to extract this file with WINE or Windows. > > Get the ATM files here: > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/type/win/all/afmfiles/900-960/950/ > > Convert all file names to lower case and install in the usual manner. > > Or, if you don't want to do that, it might be better to use URW Nimbus Sans > L (the free clone of Helvetica) which should be on your system if you > installed from a distro. You can check for this with: > > fc-list "Nimbus Sans L" > > Always use the quotes if the name has spaces in it. > > -- > JRT > ___________________________________________________ > . > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.