I enter "shortcuts" in kcontrol, then press the assign button and for example punch in ctrl+win+left. now the following happens: ctrl gets depressed, and the dialog displays "ctrl+" , as supposed to. win gets depressed, and the dialog displays "ctrl+win+" , as supposed to, too. now i finally press left cursor or whatever else, and the "win+" vanishes! I must add I recently upgraded to Xorg R6.7, and on their irc channel I was told other KDE users noticed this behaviour, too, but not Gnome users. KDE bug or Xorg? Dex -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a- C+++(++++) UL+>++++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS++(+) PE(-) Y+ PGP(-) t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b+(+++) DI+++ D G++ e* h>++ r%>* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.againsttcpa.com - nothing fights like the opposition ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.