Mac I had this problem when I was using kdm as the greeter (that was specified in /etc/init.d/xdm on my set-up). I guess you have kde installed somewhere like /opt/kde3? Adjust what follows accordingly. First, check that /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/Xsession will start up your kde desktop (when typed at the xterm window you are getting). Then, make sure that /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc has this line: Session=/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/Xsession in the section called [X-*-Core] (careful - lots of very similar section names!) That should do the trick... Go back to the greeter and try again. (I also found that things were being spoiled by files in /etc/opt/kde/*. I deleted these and various kde features burst into life. Of course, be careful about doing that. I presume the problems I had with it were because it clashed with /opt/kde/share/config/kdm, but the /etc/opt/kde directory must have been there for a reason...) Good luck Steve. Dundee, UK ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.