Super helpful, thanks Paul! We'll look into this and get back to you if it doesn't fit our needs. On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:31 PM Joel Granados <j.granados@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 04:04:46PM -0500, Paul Moore wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 12:54 PM Jeffrey Vander Stoep <jeffv@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 10:17 PM Paul Moore <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 3:58 PM Gil Cukierman <cukie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This patchset provides the changes required for controlling access to > > > > > the io_uring_setup system call by LSMs. It does this by adding a new > > > > > hook to io_uring. It also provides the SELinux implementation for a new > > > > > permission, io_uring { setup }, using the new hook. > > > > > > > > > > This is important because existing io_uring hooks only support limiting > > > > > the sharing of credentials and access to the sensitive uring_cmd file > > > > > op. Users of LSMs may also want the ability to tightly control which > > > > > callers can retrieve an io_uring capable fd from the kernel, which is > > > > > needed for all subsequent io_uring operations. > > > > > > > > It isn't immediately obvious to me why simply obtaining a io_uring fd > > > > from io_uring_setup() would present a problem, as the security > > > > relevant operations that are possible with that io_uring fd *should* > > > > still be controlled by other LSM hooks. Can you help me understand > > > > what security issue you are trying to resolve with this control? > > > > > > I think there are a few reasons why we want this particular hook. > > > > > > 1. It aligns well with how other resources are managed by selinux > > > where access to the resource is the first control point (e.g. "create" > > > for files, sockets, or bpf_maps, "prog_load" for bpf programs, and > > > "open" for perf_event) and then additional functionality or > > > capabilities require additional permissions. > > > > [NOTE: there were two reply sections in your email, and while similar, > > they were not identical; I've trimmed the other for the sake of > > clarity] > > > > The resources you mention are all objects which contain some type of > > information (either user data, configuration, or program > > instructions), with the resulting fd being a handle to those objects. > > In the case of io_uring the fd is a handle to the io_uring > > interface/rings, which by itself does not contain any information > > which is not already controlled by other permissions. > > > > I/O operations which transfer data between the io_uring buffers and > > other system objects, e.g. IORING_OP_READV, are still subject to the > > same file access controls as those done by the application using > > syscalls. Even the IORING_OP_OPENAT command goes through the standard > > VFS code path which means it will trigger the same access control > > checks as an open*() done by the application normally. > > > > The 'interesting' scenarios are those where the io_uring operation > > servicing credentials, aka personalities, differ from the task > > controlling the io_uring. However in those cases we have the new > > io_uring controls to gate these delegated operations. Passing an > > io_uring fd is subject to the fd/use permission like any other fd. > > > > Although perhaps the most relevant to your request is the fact that > > the io_uring inode is created using the new(ish) secure anon inode > > interface which ensures that the creating task has permission to > > create an io_uring. This io_uring inode label also comes into play > > when a task attempts to mmap() the io_uring rings, a critical part of > > the io_uring API. > > > > If I'm missing something you believe to be important, please share the details. > > > > > 2. It aligns well with how resources are managed on Android. We often > > > do not grant direct access to resources (like memory buffers). > > > > Accessing the io_uring buffers requires a task to mmap() the io_uring > > fd which is controlled by the normal SELinux mmap() access controls. > > > > > 3. Attack surface management. One of the primary uses of selinux on > > > Android is to assess and limit attack surface (e.g. > > > https://twitter.com/jeffvanderstoep/status/1422771606309335043) . As > > > io_uring vulnerabilities have made their way through our vulnerability > > > management system, it's become apparent that it's complicated to > > > assess the impact. Is a use-after-free reachable? Creating > > > proof-of-concept exploits takes a lot of time, and often functionality > > > can be reached by multiple paths. How many of the known io_uring > > > vulnerabilities would be gated by the existing checks? How many future > > > ones will be gated by the existing checks? I don't know the answer to > > > either of these questions and it's not obvious. This hook makes that > > > initial assessment simple and effective. > > > > It should be possible to deny access to io_uring via the anonymous > > inode labels, the mmap() controls, and the fd/use permission. If you > > find a way to do meaningful work with an io_uring fd that can't be > > controlled via an existing permission check please let me know. > > Also interested in a more specific case. Sending reply so I get added to > the group response. > > > > -- > > paul-moore.com