On 2/19/22 2:42 PM, Olivier Langlois wrote: > One side effect that I have discovered from testing the napi_busy_poll > patch, despite improving the network timing of the threads performing > the busy poll, it is the networking performance degradation that it has > on the rest of the system. > > I dedicate isolated CPUS to specific threads of my program. My kernel > is compiled with CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL. One thing that I have never really > understood is why there were still kernel threads assigned to the > isolated CPUs. > > $ CORENUM=2; ps -L -e -o pid,psr,cpu,cmd | grep -E > "^[[:space:]]+[[:digit:]]+[[:space:]]+${CORENUM}" > 24 2 - [cpuhp/2] > 25 2 - [idle_inject/2] > 26 2 - [migration/2] > 27 2 - [ksoftirqd/2] > 28 2 - [kworker/2:0-events] > 29 2 - [kworker/2:0H] > 83 2 - [kworker/2:1-mm_percpu_wq] > > It is very hard to keep the CPU 100% tickless if there are still tasks > assigned to isolated CPUs by the kernel. > > This question isn't really answered anywhere AFAIK: > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/timers/no_hz.html > https://jeremyeder.com/2013/11/15/nohz_fullgodmode/ > > Those threads running on their dedicated CPUS are the ones doing the > NAPI busy polling. Because of that, those CPUs usage ramp up to 100% > and running ping on the side is now having horrible numbers: > > [2022-02-19 07:27:54] INFO SOCKPP/ping ping results for 10 loops: > 0. 104.16.211.191 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 9.926/34.987/80.048/17.016 ms > 1. 104.16.212.191 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 9.861/34.934/79.986/17.019 ms > 2. 104.16.213.191 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 9.876/34.949/79.965/16.997 ms > 3. 104.16.214.191 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 9.852/34.927/79.977/17.019 ms > 4. 104.16.215.191 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 9.869/34.943/79.958/16.997 ms > > Doing this: > echo 990000 > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_rt_runtime_us > > as instructed here: > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/scheduler/sched-rt-group.html > > fix the problem: > > $ ping 104.16.211.191 > PING 104.16.211.191 (104.16.211.191) 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from 104.16.211.191: icmp_seq=1 ttl=62 time=1.05 ms > 64 bytes from 104.16.211.191: icmp_seq=2 ttl=62 time=0.812 ms > 64 bytes from 104.16.211.191: icmp_seq=3 ttl=62 time=0.864 ms > 64 bytes from 104.16.211.191: icmp_seq=4 ttl=62 time=0.846 ms > 64 bytes from 104.16.211.191: icmp_seq=5 ttl=62 time=1.23 ms > 64 bytes from 104.16.211.191: icmp_seq=6 ttl=62 time=0.957 ms > 64 bytes from 104.16.211.191: icmp_seq=7 ttl=62 time=1.10 ms > ^C > --- 104.16.211.191 ping statistics --- > 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6230ms > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.812/0.979/1.231/0.142 ms > > If I was to guess, I would say that it is ksoftirqd on those CPUs that > is starving and is not servicing the network packets but I wish that I > had a better understanding of what is really happening and know if it > would be possible to keep 100% those processors dedicated to my tasks > and have the network softirqs handled somewhere else to not have to > tweak /proc/sys/kernel/sched_rt_runtime_us to fix the issue... Outside of this, I was hoping to see some performance numbers in the main patch. Sounds like you have them, can you share? -- Jens Axboe