On 5/27/21 8:12 AM, Justin Forbes wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:43 AM Jens Axboe <axboe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 5/26/21 4:34 PM, Justin M. Forbes wrote: >>> While IO_URING has been in fairly heavy development, it is hidden behind >>> CONFIG_EXPERT with a default of on. It has been long enough now that I >>> think we should remove EXPERT and allow users and distros to decide how >>> they want this config option set without jumping through hoops. >> >> The whole point of EXPERT is to ensure that it doesn't get turned off >> "by accident". It's a core feature, and something that more and more >> apps or libraries are relying on. It's not something I intended to ever >> go away, just like it would never go away for eg futex or epoll support. >> > > I am not arguing with that, I don't expect it will go away. I > certainly do not have an issue with it defaulting to on, and I didn't > even submit this with intention to turn it off for default Fedora. I > do think that there are cases where people might not wish it turned on > at this point in time. Hiding it behind EXPERT makes it much more > difficult than it needs to be. There are plenty of config options > that are largely expected default and not hidden behind EXPERT. Right there are, but not really core kernel features like the ones I mentioned. Hence my argument for why it's correct as-is and I don't think it should be changed. -- Jens Axboe