Am 04.05.21 um 01:16 schrieb Linus Torvalds: > On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 3:56 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> It's all fine that we have lots of blurb about GDB, but there is no >> reasoning why this does not affect regular kernel threads which take the >> same code path. > > Actual kernel threads don't get attached to by ptrace. > >> This is a half setup user space thread which is assumed to behave like a >> regular kernel thread, but is this assumption actually true? > > No, no. > > It's a *fully set up USER thread*. > > Those IO threads used to be kernel threads. That didn't work out for > the reasons already mentioned earlier. > > These days they really are fully regular user threads, they just don't > return to user space because they continue to do the IO work that they > were created for. > > Maybe instead of Stefan's patch, we could do something like this: > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/process.c b/arch/x86/kernel/process.c > index 43cbfc84153a..890f3992e781 100644 > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/process.c > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/process.c > @@ -156,7 +156,7 @@ int copy_thread(unsigned long clone_flags, > unsigned long sp, unsigned long arg, > #endif > > /* Kernel thread ? */ > - if (unlikely(p->flags & (PF_KTHREAD | PF_IO_WORKER))) { > + if (unlikely(p->flags & PF_KTHREAD)) { > memset(childregs, 0, sizeof(struct pt_regs)); > kthread_frame_init(frame, sp, arg); > return 0; > @@ -168,6 +168,17 @@ int copy_thread(unsigned long clone_flags, > unsigned long sp, unsigned long arg, > if (sp) > childregs->sp = sp; > > + /* > + * An IO thread is a user space thread, but it doesn't > + * return to ret_after_fork(), it does the same kernel > + * frame setup to return to a kernel function that > + * a kernel thread does. > + */ > + if (unlikely(p->flags & PF_IO_WORKER)) { > + kthread_frame_init(frame, sp, arg); > + return 0; > + } > + > #ifdef CONFIG_X86_32 > task_user_gs(p) = get_user_gs(current_pt_regs()); > #endif > > does that clarify things and make people happier? > > Maybe the compiler might even notice that the > > kthread_frame_init(frame, sp, arg); > return 0; > > part is common code and then it will result in less generated code too. > > NOTE! The above is - as usual - COMPLETELY UNTESTED. It looks obvious > enough, and it builds cleanly. But that's all I'm going to guarantee. I think I also tested something similar, see: https://git.samba.org/?p=metze/linux/wip.git;a=commitdiff;h=82fcee2774add04fbc0e4755c405e6c0b7467e3a If I remember correctly gdb showed bogus addresses for the backtraces of the io_threads, as some regs where not cleared. The patch I posted shows this instead: Thread 2 (LWP 8744): #0 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () Backtrace stopped: Cannot access memory at address 0x0 I think that's a saner behavior. However splitting the if statements might be a good idea to make things more clear. Thanks discussing this again! metze