Re: [PATCH] drm/i915: Acquire RPM wakeref for KMS atomic commit

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On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 07:21:33PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 04:37:41PM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 05:28:16PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 04:14:53PM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 05:02:08PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 09:58:43AM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > > > > Once all the preparations are complete, we are ready to write the
> > > > > > modesetting to the hardware. During this phase, we will be making lots
> > > > > > of HW register access, so take a top level wakeref to prevent an
> > > > > > unwarranted rpm suspend cycle mid-commit. Lower level functions should
> > > > > > be waking the individual power wells as required.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93439
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Cc: Imre Deak <imre.deak@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > 
> > > > > The original idea here was that doing this will paper over bugs in our rpm
> > > > > refcounting. There's also the problem that for modeset stuff we have all
> > > > > the power wells still to take care of.
> > > > > 
> > > > > For the referenced bug we should add a power domain check in the get hw
> > > > > state function instead, which is what we've been doing with all the other
> > > > > similar hw state readout functions too.
> > > > 
> > > > Agreed that there is another bug, but in the long term, we do want a
> > > > "prolonged" wakeref here. In the next evolution of the wakeref assertions,
> > > > we should be able to differentiate between the two (i.e. when we have
> > > > fine grained wakerefs around the hw access, we need to assert we hold one
> > > > of that type in the mmio accessor, rather than the prolonged version).
> > > 
> > > Why? If we enforce that I fear we lose implicit coverage. Currently if you
> > > touch any piece of modeset hw and don't have the corresponding long-time
> > > rpm/power well ref there's a good chance something will spot this. If we
> > > have a short-term rpm reference for everything we won't noticed these
> > > problems around the long-term rpm references any more.
> > 
> > The theory being that when we get autosuspend on the order of say a
> > hundred microseconds, we start to run into the real possibility of an
> > rpm cycle mid update.
> >  
> > > Imo the only thing short-term references are useful for is lockdep
> > > annotations to detect deadlocks, since lockdep requires that we drop a
> > > lock in the same process again. Long-term ones would simply do a
> > > might_lock in the get function to annotate the deadlock with rpm resume
> > > functions.
> > 
> > I'm thinking of a world where suspend-resume time are on the order of
> > microseconds and the rpm suspend interval not much greater.
> 
> That's why we need a bit of hystersis to avoid that. Statistics rule of
> thumb is to only suspend once you've spent about as much time idle as it
> would take you to suspend/resume. And since we do a few global updates we
> actually acquire new power wells before old ones, so as long as you don't
> do 2 ioctls to change configurations it's impossible to accidentally
> suspend in between. The rest is just appropriately tuning defaults (and
> still setting it to 0 in igt for maximum nastiness).

I still feel we are talking about complementary techiniques for
achieving the same thing - and that there will always be places in the
code where we want to say "do not thing about suspending until the end of
this big function".
-Chris

-- 
Chris Wilson, Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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