On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 01:29:57PM -0800, Jesse Barnes wrote: > On 11/24/2014 06:13 AM, Chris Wilson wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 03:10:05PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:35:29AM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote: > >>> Pinning is a useful tool and it would also be useful to have again on > >>> gen6+. > >> > >> I think softpin or similar is doable with ppgtt. But with shared ggtt I'm > >> not really enthusiastic about providing this kind of rope to userspace. > >> And softpin is a different type of pinning, so we don't really lose > >> anything by ripping out the userspace hard pinning ioctls. > > > > I am not talking about softpin, but being able to pin memory and a GGTT > > binding itself is useful. > > I see you merged this over Chris's objections and then shot down his > revert. I'm not clear on why you're so opposed to the pin ioctl? It's > a privileged op and definitely has its uses as Chris has repeatedly > pointed out. > > Why so insistent on dropping this particular ioctl? Do you see it > causing actual problems? Or do you just like preventing userspace from > doing things you don't agree with? > > (Sorry, catching up on ancient backlog from intel-gfx, so maybe there's > a thread I missed when re-looking at this. If so, please point me at it.) People are way too happy to abuse it instead of using dma-buf. And at least some of the uses sna has also cause a bunch of problems with being a bit too clever around reloc handling (so we essentially _have_ to take the toys away since giving it back would cause regressions). If there's a real users then we can look at this again imo, but I think most things are better solved with proper kernel interfaces since in the end the kernel does mm for the gpu, and if userspace interferes we can't do that. So overall my answer is: - re-enable will cause regressions - I don't see a justified user - we should never have allowed this with kms to begin with, it was an oversight. Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ Intel-gfx mailing list Intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-gfx
