Re: Need your advice: Add a new communication inteface between HD-Audio and Gfx drivers for hotplug notification/ELD update

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On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 09:08:39AM +0000, Lin, Mengdong wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ville Syrjälä [mailto:ville.syrjala@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:23 PM
> > To: Lin, Mengdong
> > Cc: Daniel Vetter; Takashi Iwai; alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Barnes, Jesse;
> > Zanoni, Paulo R; dri-devel; intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re:  Need your advice: Add a new communication
> > inteface between HD-Audio and Gfx drivers for hotplug notification/ELD
> > update
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 01:58:22PM +0000, Lin, Mengdong wrote:
> > > Sorry to pick up this thread after a long time.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx [mailto:daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx] On
> > > > Behalf Of Daniel Vetter
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:27 PM
> > > > To: Takashi Iwai
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >> Thanks for clarification!
> > > > >> Maybe we can add output info (eg. display port number) to the eld
> > > > >> entries
> > > > under /proc/asound/cardx. Is it okay?
> > > > >
> > > > > It's possible, but the proc file is just a help.  It can't be the API.
> > > > > For accessing the information, we'll need some new API, or let
> > > > > inform via sysfs of the new device.
> > > >
> > > > Links in sysfs sound like the best approach. drm already has nodes
> > > > for each connector, so on the gfx side there's a natural endpoint
> > already.
> > > > sysfs links also avoids any naming issues from the start, e.g. the
> > > > above DP connector id might lead to clashes with multiple cards.
> > >
> > > Hi Daniel,
> > >
> > > Is there a 1:1 mapping between these connector nodes and ports of Gfx
> > display engine?
> > > Eg. For Haswell Ultrabook, under
> > > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0/
> > > There are four connector nodes,
> > > card0-DP-1		-> DDI port B
> > > card0-eDP-1/		-> DDI port A
> > > card0-HDMI-A-1/	-> DDI Port C
> > > card0-HDMI-A-2/	-> Which DDI port ?  Haswell-ULT does not
> > support port D, and I think port E is for VGA.
> > 
> > There's no fixed mapping with the port and the connector name. The
> > number in the connector name is basically just a running number per
> > connector type. However I do believe we do register the connectors in the
> > order of the ports more or less always, so you can
> > *sometimes* deduce the port name from the connector.
> > 
> > I suppose in this example HDMI-A-1 is port B, HDMI-A-2 is port C, and
> > DP-1 can be either port B or port C. DP++ is the reason why we have
> > overlapping DP and HDMI connectors for the same port.
> 
> Thanks for clarification, Ville!
> 
> Does Haswell support DP++ on port B/C/D?

Yes.

> And will the name of these connector node change after system boot, e.g. after S3/S4 cycles or hot-plug?

The connector names can't change, except if you unload+reload the
driver. But I suppose DP MST might change this. Or maybe we'll just
expose three new fixed DP connectors per DDI port. One for each
potential stream.

> 
> 
> As long as the connector name is constant, it can help to find out the screen status no matter the port works in HDMI or DP mode.
> 
> There is 1:1 mapping between audio output pins and DDI ports.

So I guess we need to expose the port->connector mapping somehow
to the audio driver.

How does this work with DP MST? On the display side the audio stuff
happens in the transcoder, not the DDI port, AFAICS. For DP MST each
transcoder can provide a single stream.

> And the new ALSA PCM 'screen' control for a pin can reflect the connector name in right mode. E.g. for pin/port B, it can return HDMI-A-1 or DP-1 depending on what kind of monitor is connected.
> 
> Thanks
> Mengdong
> 
> > >
> > > Hi Takashi,
> > >
> > > To make user space figure out which audio output is connected to which
> > screen (connector), maybe we can define a new ALSA control for each
> > HDMI/DP PCM device:
> > > e.g. numid=x,iface=PCM,name='Screen',device=3
> > > Reading the control will return the name of the DRM connector nodes
> > like ' card0-DP-1'. The audio driver can get the connector name from the
> > gfx driver.
> > >
> > > For DP1.2 Multi-stream transport, it's not supported by i915 and HD-A
> > driver now. But probably there will be sub-nodes for the DP connector
> > node in the future and an index in their name can be used distinguish
> > monitors connected to the same DP port, like card0-DP-1.1, card0-DP-1.2,
> > card0-DP-1.3 ... These names can be used by the above ALSA PCM 'Screen'
> > control, so we can still know which audio output is to which monitor.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Mengdong
> > >
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> > --
> > Ville Syrjälä
> > Intel OTC

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