Hi Takashi, In order to let audio power-save work even with charger connected, two parameters need be modified in userspace pm-utils scripts. I tested the changes under Ubuntu 13.10 on Harris Beach, no matter charger connected or not, runtime power-saving works and power-well will Be released as expected. Here's my test under Ubuntu 13.04, the changes are: 1) /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/intel-audio-powersave case $1 in true) audio_powersave 1 ;; + false) audio_powersave 10 ;; - false) audio_powersave 0 ;; help) help;; *) exit $NA esac Audio will enter power-save mode after 10s inactive period. 2) /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/pci_devices 0x040300) # audio echo "Setting Audio device $id to $1" + echo "auto" > $dev/power/control - echo $1 > $dev/power/control This keep audio subsystem always on. This way the user may not let audio subsystem always active, may bring some delay from codec/controllers, or harm some chips. Do you think we should add an exception for Haswell only or just make it as a common solution for audio subsystem? Thanks --xingchao > -----Original Message----- > From: Wang, Xingchao > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:00 PM > To: Takashi Iwai > Cc: Wysocki, Rafael J; David Henningsson; Paulo Zanoni; Daniel Vetter; > daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx; alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Girdwood, Liam R; Jin, Gordon > Subject: RE: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 0/4 V7] Power-well API > implementation for Haswell > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Takashi Iwai [mailto:tiwai@xxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:43 PM > > To: Wang, Xingchao > > Cc: Wysocki, Rafael J; David Henningsson; Paulo Zanoni; Daniel Vetter; > > daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx; alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Girdwood, Liam R; Jin, Gordon > > Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 0/4 V7] Power-well API > > implementation for Haswell > > > > At Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:30:16 +0000, > > Wang, Xingchao wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Wysocki, Rafael J > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:15 PM > > > > To: David Henningsson > > > > Cc: Wang, Xingchao; Takashi Iwai; Paulo Zanoni; Daniel Vetter; > > > > daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx; alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > > > intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Girdwood, Liam R; Jin, Gordon > > > > Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 0/4 V7] Power-well > > > > API implementation for Haswell > > > > > > > > On 7/24/2013 1:57 PM, David Henningsson wrote: > > > > > On 07/24/2013 01:33 PM, Wang, Xingchao wrote: > > > > >> Yes, I agree. I'm debugging this issue on Ubuntu, not sure it > > > > >> happens on other distribution too. > > > > >> If it's related to Ubuntu, maybe need check Ubuntu power policy. > > > > >> Does anyone know the Ubuntu power-policy on laptop? > > > > >> i.e. when charger connected, will Ubuntu make decision to > > > > >> disable power-save feature for audio subsystem? > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a power management expert, but I got a pointer from my > > > > > team mate to pm-utils: > > > > > > > > > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pm-utils/tree/pm/power.d/intel-audio > > > > > -p > > > > > ower > > > > > save > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I understand correctly, The scripts in power.d are executed > > > > > when battery / AC-power is changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, this sounds like a user space issue. It requested power on > > > > and the kernel delivered. > > > > > > Do you know which user-space application will touch below two flags? > > > - /sys/devices/pci0000\:00/0000\:00\:03.0/power/control > > > - /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save > > > > The latter is touched most likely by pm-utils, one of the hooks, as David > pointed. > > Oh yes I found the hook: > ./pm/power.d/intel-audio-powersave > > --xingchao > > The former is unknown, but better to check pm-utils hooks and udev rules. > > > > > > Takashi _______________________________________________ Intel-gfx mailing list Intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-gfx