On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Julien Cristau <jcristau at debian.org> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 03:24:32 -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > >> - without this patch, modern X errors out instead of starting, >> because the intel driver requires kms. (In a hypothetical better >> world, userspace would know to fall back to vesa or something.) >> > I'd expect X to start with vesa or fbdev, rather than erroring out? There's a corner case when X and the kernel know about the graphics device, but libdrm doesn't, in which case an assertion in the X driver fails and X doesn't start. Upstream libdrm has been okay for a few releases. A bug against Debian libdrm has been open for a while, but they seem to disagree about the importance, nothing has happened. In fairness, this device seems to be rare so far. I'm not really using mine any more, I put an extra graphics card in the box.