Re: kbl_guc and bxt_guc firmware missing from linux-firmware

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On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 07:01 -0600, Seth Forshee wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:28:42PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've noted that kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin and bxt_guc_ver8_7.bin are not in
> > > linux-firmware despite being available here:
> > >
> > >  https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/firmware
> > >
> > > Is there some reason they haven't been pusehd out to linux-firmware,
> > > e.g. are they not yet stable or something like that? Any reason we
> > > shouldn't ship those files in Ubuntu's linux-firmware?
> > 
> > None that I know of. Rodrigo, please send the pull request to
> > linux-firmware if you haven't already.

Anusha already did the pull-request. 

We are waiting on Kyle now.


> > 
> > > Frankly, the practice of adding MODULE_FIRMWARE statements to i915 for
> > > files which aren't in linux-firmware has become a significant annoyance
> > > to me as Ubuntu's linux-firmware package maintainer. I'm getting a
> > > steady stream of bug reports from users about the "Possible missing
> > > firmware ..." messages from mkinitramfs, to the point that I've started
> > > removing the MODULE_FIRMWARE statements for those files from our
> > > kernels.
> > 
> > Admittedly we've probably done that even before the firmware has hit
> > 01.org, and we should fix this. We don't have a long history of dealing
> > with firmware blobs, and your feedback is appreciated.
> > 
> > I think my main question is, what are the downsides of requesting a
> > firmware even if it hasn't been declared using a MODULE_FIRMWARE
> > statement? I don't see anything preventing that. Is MODULE_FIRMWARE
> > purely informational, to help ensure the packaging gets it right?
> > 
> > We do need to have the firmware loading code in place long before we
> > actually publish the firmware, to test the stuff. Could we get away with
> > adding the MODULE_FIRMWARE statements only after the blobs have hit
> > linux-firmware?

I believe we can improve a bit and only merge the final loading patch
after our QA gave the ok to release at 01.org and propagate to
linux-firmware.git. But this for the regular case where the patch only
add a certain version.

One thing that hit us hard on this was the first time we had huc and the
rebasing of all loading patches was a painful so we had to merge that
soon so we could really test and keep some level of CI and regression
tests running before really releasing the firmware.

> 
> The only downside I know of is this. mkinitramfs uses the modinfo
> firmware field to copy firmware into the initrd along with the kernel
> module, so when i915.ko is copied to the initrd that firmware would not
> be copied along with it. There may be other tools using that modinfo
> field that I'm not aware of though.
> 
> Maybe it would be good to have something like MODULE_OPTIONAL_FIRMWARE
> to identify firmware that isn't required but will be used by the driver
> if available. Then mkinitramfs can try to copy those files along with
> the module but know that there's no need to produce a warning if it's
> not present.
> 
> Thanks,
> Seth

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