Re: Is "reconstruct -V max..." needed when upgrading from 2.5.10 to 3.0.7?

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Hi Nic,
as far as I know there are currently a couple of nasty open issues when upgrading old mailboxes, created from earlier versions of cyrus, that have not been upgraded to v13 index using reconstruct. These issues are:

https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/2171
https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/2208

The main problem is frequent crashes with error message "assertion failed" when accessing these mailboxes.

In issue #2208 a reconstruct command was proposed as a workaround:
reconstruct -G -V max [mailboxname]

Note that -G parameter seems necessary, otherwise the problem persists...

Note also, that this should be done while still in version 2.5.x! The behavior of version 3.x reconstruct is not the same and you will not have the same results.

As for the cyrdump you mention, it would be better if you compared the results before running reconstruct and after that.
I guess what you would see is that the uidlist before would probably be in the range 6 - 9 (or you'd see a crash). cyrus 3.0.x considers that part of the index corrupt so simply cannot access those uids (1-5). Reconstruct detects this issue and what it does is that reappends those "newly found" messages, giving them a new uid, so that's what uids 10-14 probably really are. Note that this causes these messages to appear unread, since they have no flags (not something you want for your clients' mailboxes).

Bron mentioned something about this bug in the cyrus devel list a few days ago:
https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/cyrus-devel/2018-July/thread.html#4313
but I didn't see any related commit or anything mentioned in the above issues, so I'm not sure if there is a fix at the moment...

Hope this helps,
Regards,
Savvas Karagiannidis

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 6:43 PM Nic Bernstein <nic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Friends,
I'm preparing for a couple of belated 2.5.X to 3.0.X upgrades, and have a question about how necessary it is to run "reconstruct -V max" on the mailstore.  Both systems are currently running 2.5.10, and are already at index version 13.  However, when performing "reconstruct -V max" on one, on a new 3.0.7 (with patches) system, I see this:
root@newmail:~# /usr/lib/cyrus/bin/reconstruct -V max user/onlight
user.onlight uid 1 rediscovered - appending
user.onlight uid 2 rediscovered - appending
user.onlight uid 3 rediscovered - appending
user.onlight uid 4 rediscovered - appending
user.onlight uid 5 rediscovered - appending
user/onlight
Repacked user/onlight to version 13
The last line can be ignored, as it's really a noop.  The "rediscovered - appending" stuff is what catches my eye.  However, once the reconstruct is complete, here's what the mailbox looks like:
root@newmail:/var/spool/cyrus/mail/I/user/onlight# /usr/lib/cyrus/bin/cyrdump user/onlight
Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="dump-27466-1533049817-351841533"

--dump-27466-1533049817-351841533
Content-Type: text/xml
IMAP-Dump-Version: 0

<imapdump uniqueid="710a47ca47ebc676">
  <mailbox-url>imap://newmail.example.com/user.onlight</mailbox-url>
  <incremental-uid>0</incremental-uid>
  <nextuid>15</nextuid>

  <uidlist>6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 </uidlist>

  <flags>
...
Note that the <uidlist> doesn't list those low number UIDs which were listed in the reconstruct sequence.  In other words, I think this all is harmless, but I'm not sure how much overhead it brings to the whole process.

One of the servers has a total of 70GB of mail, so a complete reconstruct run only takes a short while.  The other, however, has over 8TB scattered over >30 partitions.  If I could avoid running reconstruct across that whole wad, it'd be great.

Thoughts please?
    -nic
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