Re: Adding archiving to an existing Cyrus installation

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Hi,

Quoting Reinaldo Gil Lima de Carvalho <reinaldoc@xxxxxxxxx>:

I think that singleinstancestore (message hard links) will not survive when
moving from one partition to the other and storage total size will increase
significantly.


thanks for the hint. This was not a problem while migration to the meta-data partition, as the mails stayed on the same partition (as in file-system and not cyrus-partition)
and only hardlinks where change at all.

So one more reason for an other migration path.



2017-11-03 12:22 GMT-03:00 Michael Menge <michael.menge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
:

Hi Nic,

Quoting Nic Bernstein <nic@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

Friends,
I have a client with Cyrus 2.5.10 installed.  Last year we migrated their
old 2.3.18 system to 2.5.10, with an eye towards an eventual move to
3.0.x.  Based on Bron's most excellent email of last year, ([Subject: Cyrus
database and file usage data] from Cyrus Devel of 8 January 2016) we used a
tiered layout for the storage:

The main categories are:

 * Config directory (ssd) [/var/lib/imap]
     o sieve
     o seen
     o sub
     o quota
     o mailboxes.db
     o annotations.db
 * Ephemeral [/var/run/cyrus -- in tmpfs]
     o tls_sessions.db
     o deliver.db
     o statuscache.db
     o proc (directory)
     o lock (directory)
 * Mailbox data [typical 2.5.X usage]
     o Meta-data (ssd)
         + header
         + index
         + cache
         + expunge
         + squat (search index)
         + annotations
     o Spool data (disk: raidX)
         + messages (rfc822 blobs)

We sized the Fast SSD pool (this is three-drive mirrors on ZFS) to be
extra large, so it could eventually handle "Hot" data, and left about 300GB
free there.  Data, on spinning media, is currently 5.74TB with 4.8TB free
(RAID10).  Metadata is 35GB and /var/lib/imap is 8GB, all of which is in
the Fast pool.

Now the client is ready to take the dive into v3.0, and I'm trying to
figure out how to put "archive" operation in effect.

I have read the documentation (hell, I wrote most of it) and understand
the settings, but what I cannot quite wrap my brain around is this: There
is already all of this data sitting in all of these data partitions (we use
a total of 34 separate partitions each for data & metadata) so how do I
make the transition to separate archive partitions, since all that data is
on the "slow" drives? Can I just reassign all of the current data
partitions to archivedata partitions, define the new set of "Hot" data
partitions on the Fast pool, and let 'er rip, or what?

I promise, if you tell me, I'll write it up as real documentation. :-)


We are interested in such a migration too. Our fallback plan, if we don't
find a
better way to do it is, do use the same method as we introduced the ssd
meta-data
partition.


1. We created a new partition in our cyrus configuration,
2. we moved moved the accounts from one partition to the other one by one.
3. (this will be new for the archive partition) run cyrus expire to move
the old mails back to the slow disks.

This method will have two downsides.
1. we have to copy all mails to the fast storage, and move the old mails
   back to the slow storage. So we have to move most of the mails twice.
2. the path of the old mail will change so they will be stored again in
   our file based backup

so a method without these downsides will be appreciated

Regards

   Michael

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