Hi, some more info. I've copied the sent_mail folder to a testmachine and started a chk_cyrus. Same messages in /var/log/mail.err: cyrus/chk_cyrus[15900]: user.userxyz.sent_mail uid 201 found - adding [...] Btw: I figured out that rsyslog skipped some logging. So chk_cyrus reports always the same amount of messages: Sep 15 18:59:45 test rsyslogd-2177: imuxsock begins to drop messages from pid 15900 due to rate-limiting In the sent_mail folder there was one single messages, which is shown in an imap client. This is message 1. in the file system and was created after the user deleted all messages in the sent_mail folder. ------------------- Sep 10 11:53:46 primary cyrus/imaps[19286]: Deleted mailbox user.userxyz.sent_mail -rw------- 2 cyrus mail 543 2014-09-12 10:18 var/spool/cyrus/mail/u/user/userxyz/sent_mail/1. ------------------- It seems that something strange happened while deleting the 440 MB big sent_mail folder. The cyrus databases inside the sent_mail started counting at number 1 again. Using Thunderbird I've copied another message inside the sent_mail folder and this message got number 2. and overwrote the old "deleted" 2. messages, which is still hang around in the file system together with the other ~1700 messages. As the "deleted" mails in the sent_mail folder are hardlinked three times 10897103 -rw------- 3 cyrus mail 5520 Sep 9 23:08 /var/spool/cyrus/mail/u/user/userxyz/sent_mail/1766. 10897103 -rw------- 3 cyrus mail 5520 Sep 9 23:08 /var/spool/cyrus/mail/u/user/userxyz/Gesendete Elemente/1807. 10897103 -rw------- 3 cyrus mail 5520 Sep 9 23:08 /var/spool/cyrus/mail/u/DELETED/user/userxyz/sent_mail/54101FA9/1766. what would happen if I start a cyrus expire on the DELETED.user.userxyz.sent_mail folder by hand: /usr/sbin/cyrus expire -E 1 -X 0 -D 0 -p DELETED.user.userxyz.sent_mail This would be what will happen in a few days, when nightly cyrus expire is started by cyrus events and the deleted messages are older than 7 days. So question is what happens to file files in "u/user/userxyz/sent_mail" in "u/DELETED/user/userxyz/sent_mail/54101FA9/" and in "u/user/userxyz/Gesendete Elemente/" ? The files in subfolder "Gesendete Elemente" subfolder must not be deleted. I think the user copied all mails from "sent_mail" to "Gesendete Elemente" to merge, so he wants to keep those mails. Or another way: just delete user.userxyz.sent_mail subfolder using cyradm. The sent_mail folder will be moved into a subfolder under u/DELETED/user/userxyz/sent_mail/ and will only keep message 1., because all other emails are not know by the cyrus databases in user.userxyz.sent_mail. This would solve the chk_cyrus error messages. But what happens to hardlink 1807. then? Will cyrus keep these mails in "Gesendete Elemente" then? Third way: reconstruct -r on the u/user/userxyz/sent_mail folder and delete the complete folder by hand afterwards? Ciao Marcus ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ To Unsubscribe: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/info-cyrus