Vincent Fox <vbfox@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 4/20/2011 12:50 AM, Rudy Gevaert wrote: >> >> Hi Vincent, >> >> How do you make the snapshot consistent (netbackup+vmware snapshot)? >> >> Do you stop cyrus? > I'll have to ask our backup admin if you want technical specifics > and guarantees, but my understanding was that the process included > an atomic snapshot of the VM. Then the backup is made of that. > We don't stop anything it's done hot. > > As I said, we are not presently running Cyrus in a VM, Just a little side mark: As my memory serves me right, you seem to be running Cyrus in a Solaris environment using the ZFS file system. Do you want to stop using it? Solaris in VMWARE never performed really well, and seemless migration from one vmware node to another is also not possible without proper vmware tools. My tests with Solaris in a VM environment (other than Sun xVM/Xen) were horrible - ZFS' performance went down due to noticeable delays due to the "too many caches between"-error. The Cyrus mail store is one of the left servers not being migrated to our VM infrastructure due to ZFS. We are upgrading hardware to have 64 GB of RAM on our Cyrus store because ARC cache is like having plain gold for performance. I am left to have own "iron". :) Backups are done via ZFS snapshots. All VM backup systems being able to do "live snapshots and backups" are based on the fact that they know the on-disk-structure of the filesystem the virtual disk is formatted with. ZFS is a no go in all these setups. Other systems rely on the information which blocks changed - this setup together with "thin provisioning" is useless with ZFS because due to the ZIL sequential writes/copy on write the "thin provisioning" will result in a "all blocks used"-disk after doing X TB of writes on a X TB disk volume - even if it is on the same file overwritten again and again. And transferring our Cyrus Store to something other than ZFS is just out of reach. We have 50,000,000 files on the store in 102,000 mailboxes. No problem for ZFS, enough RAM for ARC (and/or good SSD for L2ARC!) provided. I would be very lucky to know other peoples experiences with Cyrus in virtualized environments. Solaris works well with Sun xVM, sure - but since Oracle has bought Sun, I don't have any possibility left to get actual copies of it so I deleted quite all installation of it. ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
