On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 14:14 +0200, Marc Patermann wrote: > Hi, > Adam Tauno Williams schrieb am 21.09.2010 12:04 Uhr: > > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 11:44 +0200, Marc Patermann wrote: > >> Andrà Schild schrieb am 21.09.2010 10:40 Uhr: > >>> Am 21.09.2010 09:31, schrieb Pascal Gienger: > >>>> I begin to be tired from this "dovecot is much more besser, you > >>>> HAVE TO USE IT", why don't you migrate, ... ...? > >> Yes, I'm too. But this is what you see in forums and mailing list. > >> And my post is intended to see what the Cyrus community can do to > >> /explain/ the product any better. > > "Be there" is the only thing I can think of. The only way to counter > > advocates is to be one. > Yes, "Be there" - but "Be prepared" and have something to point to: "See > it is easy and all there, dude!" > >>> One important thing is the documentation of the imap server, and > >>> there cyrus could offer more.... (Just my opinion) > >> The new web site is a good start. We should start a best practice > >> section in the wiki. - How do I install Cyrus on Debian/Ubuntu/...? > > Ugh, please no. Distro specific directions are lame, pointless, and > > unmaintainable [beyond possibly packages-are-here]. > Yes, you're right. But in many cases it just point to somewhere else, > which might be better than having nothing. > For Ubuntu there is a howto: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Cyrus_IMAPD and > what do you get? 2.2.13 - uargh: > http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/cyrus-imapd-2.2 > That may not be, what we want. It is an Ubuntu wiki - *of course* it is out of date. And probably wrong/bad in the first place. > > Once the packages are installed setting up is essentially the same > > everywhere. > Yes. But "install" is always first. If you do not get the user to get it > installed, everything else is useless. > > If you were a newbie and most people were trying to talk you away from > Cyrus and there is no deb or rpm, would you try to compile the software > yourself? There are RPMs. The first Bing result for "cyrus-imapd rpm". <http://www.invoca.ch/pub/packages/cyrus-imapd/> So, while I understand your point, I don't think the situation is as dire as building-from-source. > >> - From single server to multi server? - How to start with > >> partitions and why? - Where to get latest releases (rpm/deb) when > >> is not in my distriburtion (simon matter etc.)? - Everyone is > >> talking about "Push-Mail" - how to do it with Cyrus? > > It just happens if you your client supports IMAP idle. > _I_ know that. :) > It is just one example what I think user could search for. And "Push > mail" IMHO was one of the email buzz words of the last few years. > > K9 on the Android seems to work very well with Cyrus in the 'push' > > mode. Although I've noticed users usually turn it off within a > > couple of weeks - really, nobody wants push-mail once they have it. > I disagree. That IMAP idle works, or that people don't actually want push? > >> - What if I want "Groupware" later, can I still use Cyrus? (link to > >> projects supporting Cyrus, OX etc) > > Shameless self promotion -I have a chapter on Cyrus in WMOGAG > > (OpenGroupware Administrator's Guide) > > <http://docs.opengroupware.org/Members/whitemice/wmogag/file_view> > > I've gotten quite a few compliments on it. > You could put your "Shameless self promotion" in the wiki then. :) It certainly isn't an 'official' Cyrus project document, so I'm hesitant to do so. ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
