> > but then why not fetchmail to the cyrus setup directly > > too? > Well, partly because fetchmail is a rather horrible hack in terms of its > code and implementation, So what? Seriously, if a tool accomplishes the task... and accomplishing the task is the purpose for the technology to exist in the first place. The quality of code and implementation of many mainstream products could be question - but at the end it just doesn't matter - they are accomplishing the ends for their users. > but mostly because in doing so you're violating > way too many protocol levels Bogus, Fetchmail is a POP/IMAP/SMTP client that automatically moves messages based upon its configuration. It doesn't "violate" any "protocol levels" at all. If I drag-and-drop messages with my GUI MUA between two servers, or use fetchmail, it is the exact same affect and both are perfectly legitimate. Except, of course, that fetchmail will do so at 3AM every morning while I sleep. > and introducing all kinds of possible > problems and errors, Such as? I've used fetchmail on several occasions and never had "all kinds of problems". > some of which will cause your mail to be lost, and Right, just like a misconfigured MTA will, or a botched DNS server. > others of which will compromise the security of both servers. No more so that the use of a MUA; it is just an IMAP/SMTP client after all. > The best and proper way to transport mail to any given desired > location is to use a proper and robust Mail Transport Agent with > whatever protocol is most appropriate and effective for the job. Sure, assuming that is an option and you the ability to modify all the intermediary systems [not likely in the real-world]. > Fetchmail is not a solution to anything, and never was! It is an excellent solution for automatically moving messages from one mailbox to another; just like it always has been. -- OpenGroupware developer: awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://whitemiceconsulting.blogspot.com/> OpenGroupare & Cyrus IMAPd documenation @ <http://docs.opengroupware.org/Members/whitemice/wmogag/file_view> ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html