On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Michael Bacon wrote: > Hello, list, > > Today we're enjoying our first full work day of independence from the old > monolithic cyrus server installed in 1999 (Sun 6800 -- it's had new CPU > boards since then, but that's it), and on our new shiny cluster of T5220's > that are mostly happily operating as a murder. > > I say mostly because while most of the times the thing handles our 80,000 > users and 14,000+ simultaneous connections like a champ, some of the time, > we get some extreme pain, mostly due to syncs between the MUPDATE master > and the front-end servers. > > When we spec'ed out our servers, we didn't put much I/O capacity into the > front-end servers -- just a pair of mirrored 10k disks doing the OS, the > logging, the mailboxes.db, and all the webmail action going on in another > solaris zone on the same hardware. We thought this was sufficient given > the fact that no real permanent data lives on these servers, but it turns > out that while most of thie time it's fine, if the mupdate processes ever > decide they need to re-sync with the master, we've got 6 minutes of trouble > ahead while it downloads and stores the 800k entries in the mailboxes.db. What is causing a (re)sync of the frontends? Normally this should only happen when you start Cyrus on a frontend, right? > During these sync periods, we see two negative impacts. The first is > lockup on the mailboxes.db on the front-end servers, which slows down both > accepting new IMAP/POP connections and the reception of incoming messages. > (The front-ends also accept LMTP connections from a separate pair of > queueing hosts, then proxy those to the back-ends.) The second is that, > because the front-ends go into a A part of this paragraph was chopped off. What else did you have to say? I ran some tests back in 2006: > However, I just performed an interesting test comparing skiplist versus > berkeley. > > skiplist - approx 20-25mins > berkeley - 3mins > > Those are the times it took to push the entire mailbox list from our test > server to the mupdate master (146382 mailboxes). This was a test run populating the mupdate master mailboxes.db from a single backend server. However, I think it illustrates the differences between skiplist and berkeley database formats. In our case, we still went with skiplist, but it might be something to consider. Andy ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html