At Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:22:20 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Morgan <morgan@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: Re: murder and autocreate (I know it is not supported) > > Unix systems don't automatically create accounts when someone tries to > login... But unix mailers do automatically create mailboxes for existing users whenever those mailboxes need to be created... Also, as you allude to, there's a reason why modern systems include a properly integrated, built-in to the fundamental base system, method of doing all the things needed to create a usable user account. Unfortunately Cyrus is not a fully integrated subsystem in any existing modern base system, so the base system useradd or equivalent cannot automatically initialize Cyrus mailboxes too. (I'm sure I'm also not alone in thinking that many folks wouldn't mind if there were a standard way to do all the other mundane parts of account setup upon first login -- it would obviously be easy enough to do by simply setting the initial default shell to some script that did all the right things. Perhaps it's already been done. Maybe I'll do it myself in my own custom NetBSD releases now that you've prompted me to think about it again. Dim memories even suggest it has already been done -- I seem to remember being asked which shell I wanted to use when I first logged onto some systems long ago.) > In our case, the list of valid email addresses on our MTA is generated > from the list of mailboxes in Cyrus. I knew someone would end up doing it "backwards" -- it was inevitable! :-) (Your way is of course one good way to completely uncouple the mail system AAA from the underlying OS AAA when using something like Cyrus for mailbox management and storage. I prefer not to do that, but with Cyrus it's already half done anyway and there's no option to undo it.) > Obviously there are multiple ways to do account/mailbox creation. I have > no problem if you want to let Cyrus create mailboxes automatically. I > prefer to have more direct control, but to each their own. Exactly -- we agree entirely. There's nothing wrong with having administrative control over when and how mailboxes are created, but at the same time I think it is also a fundamental requirement in many environments that the mail system automatically honour all valid existing accounts even if that means automatically creating mailboxes (and perhaps also setting default quota) when necessary. -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP RoboHack <woods@xxxxxxxxxxx> Planix, Inc. <woods@xxxxxxxxxx> Secrets of the Weird <woods@xxxxxxxxx> ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
