Greg A. Woods wrote: DMcM> What Ken is working on isn't specific to autocreate. Rather, DMcM> he's working to integrate IDM into our environment. We need DMcM> a way for our identity management system to be able to simply DMcM> connect to a Cyrus frontend and issue a create command and DMcM> have something useful happen. GAW> I've never understood this idea of why anything that has GAW> anything to do with user management should _ever_ have GAW> anything to do with mailbox creation. I would tend to agree, actually. An identity management system's job is to create the context within which mail may potentially be delivered or a user may potentially authenticate. IMHO mailbox creation should be the consequence of /that/ action, not something the management system does or does to the store. GAW> Mailboxes (i.e. the default first INBOX for every user) should GAW> always be created _automatically_ as needed for every valid user. Which is what makes UoA autocreate so handy... GAW> The easiest way to do this is to trust the mail delivery system GAW> to have already verified the existence of every authorized mail GAW> user. Yep, but the MTA (deliberately) doesn't know everything that goes on inside the store. One of the things the MTA doesn't and shouldn't know is which physical backend box inside a murder the user (or shared mailbox) should be created on - hence the hack. Cheers Duncan -- Duncan Gibb - Technical Director Sirius Corporation plc - control through freedom http://www.siriusit.co.uk/ || t: +44 870 608 0063 Debian Cyrus Team - https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-cyrus-imapd/ ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html