I raised syslog info to local6.debug and the TLS session with Thunderbird and NO certs shows this: Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 636471 local6.notice] TLS server engine: cannot load CA data Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 286863 local6.notice] imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 277171 local6.error] TLS server engine: No CA file specified. Client side certs may not work Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 574029 local6.debug] SSL_accept() incomplete -> wait Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 192010 local6.debug] decryption failed or bad record mac in SSL_accept() -> fail Jan 21 12:59:10 imapsrv imap[1518]: [ID 239158 local6.notice] STARTTLS negotiation failed: myclient.our.com [xx.xx.6.52] Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > --On 21. Januar 2009 11:19:31 -0500 Jeff Blaine <jblaine@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> Sorry for the delay -- I had my wedding and a brief >> mini-honeymoon to attend to ;) > > congrats! > >>> How about Thunderbird using a password for authentication? Is that an >>> option at all? >> >> I realize this is a little "all over the road" here, >> but bear with me as I am just trying to get something >> working at this point for our users who are now >> without secure IMAP :( >> >> With "TLS" selected in Thunderbird, I am given no >> choice but to select a client certificate. See >> attached images. > > I wonder why that is. The only reason that comes to mind is that you > *have* a certificate. I don't and so I'm never asked to use it. So why > don't you try removing your certificate? Honestly, I would expect the > same to happen that happens when you use SSL, but you never know. > >> Another user reports that GNU Emacs with the Gnus >> client works with SSL and port 993. I've confirmed >> this in the log: >> >> Jan 21 11:11:03 imapsrv imaps[14170]: [ID 277583 local6.notice] login: >> jimbo-host.our.com [xx.xx.50.67] jimbo plaintext+TLS User logged in >> >> If I configure Thunderbird to do that (SSL via 993), >> I get the following: >> >> Jan 21 11:10:19 imapsrv imaps[14104]: [ID 636471 local6.notice] TLS >> server engine: cannot load CA data >> Jan 21 11:10:19 imapsrv imaps[14104]: [ID 286863 local6.notice] >> imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters >> Jan 21 11:10:19 imapsrv imaps[14104]: [ID 798856 local6.notice] imaps TLS >> negotiation failed: myclient.our.com >> Jan 21 11:10:19 imapsrv imaps[14104]: [ID 637875 local6.error] Fatal >> error: tls_start_servertls() failed > > I have no idea why that happens. I just tried it myself and got the > following in our log: > > Jan 21 18:17:48 lvr13 imaps[9855]: accepted connection > Jan 21 18:17:48 lvr13 imaps[9855]: SSL_accept() incomplete -> wait > Jan 21 18:17:48 lvr13 imaps[9855]: SSL_accept() succeeded -> done > Jan 21 18:17:48 lvr13 imaps[9855]: starttls: TLSv1 with cipher > AES256-SHA (256/256 bits new) no authentication > Jan 21 18:17:53 lvr13 imaps[9855]: login: [redacted] User logged in > > Could it be that your OpenSSL version or your certificate somehow don't > support features that Thunderbird requires? I'm really no expert, but I > know that client and server *negotiate* about these things. And the > error reads "negotiation failed" ... > > If your server is accessible over the Internet, perhaps I could try > connecting to it with "openssl s_client". That might tell us something. > You can try that as well, of course. ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html