Re: IETF 107 Standard Registration and Internet Draft Deadline Approaching

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Lou

On 6/03/2020, at 1:46 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@xxxxxxxx> wrote:



Jay

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On March 5, 2020 7:40:22 PM Jay Daley <jay@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Lou
>
>
>> On 6/03/2020, at 1:33 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> 
>> Jay,
>>
>> two very different points here:
>>
>> 1) Everyone's situation is different / unique and often more complicated than simply who is canceling. I  strongly urge you, the LLC and the iesg to have a single consistent, and public, refund policy for all.  (Either full refund for all or service charge for all).
>>
> I’m comfortable that our current policy strikes the right balance between an individual policy for each individual circumstance and a one-size-fits-all policy.
>

Can formally State / post what the policy is?. I think I heard if canceling due to the corporate policy, no refund. if individual is canceling and paying out of pocket or due to CA government action, full refund.

what about cancellation due to health issues?


If anyone has a special circumstance which is not covered but they believe it should be then they should let us know at ietf-registrar@xxxxxxxx. If your next question is why don’t we publish that, then the answer is because people who are actually in that position do get in touch. 

Jay

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Jay Daley
IETF Executive Director



>> 2) have you checked on the legal exposure to the organization of continuing to hold the meeting in the face of so many public cancellations -  which are taking place at the organizational level (e.g., f8), the association level (IEEE, apc) and at the national level (CN and IS)?
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> Yes.

Very happy to hear that.

Thank you
Lou


>
> Jay
> --
> Jay Daley
> IETF Executive Director
>
>> Thanks,
>> Lou
>>
>>> On March 5, 2020 6:58:28 PM Jay Daley <jay@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>
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>>>> On 6/03/2020, at 12:50 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>> The difference should not be between corporate and government travel restrictions but between self-inflicted (company halts travel, company pays) and externally imposed (individual pays, employer still forbids travel; company pays, government forbids travel).
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>>> I agree.
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>>> Jay
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grüße, Carsten
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jay Daley
>>> IETF Executive Director
>>> jay@xxxxxxxx
>>> +64 21 678840
>>>


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