Exactly, and full migration can only happen in several years. At the moment, the best way to keep apps working without disruption, is to keep dual stack in the customer LANs. We can do 464XLAT to keep IPv6-only in most of the ISP network. DataCenters can choose to be dual-stacked or IPv6-only with mechanisms such as SIIT-DC. All that is working already, and it works very well. How many networks do you operate or you developed for customers? How many networks have you transitioned to IPv6? May be if you provide information about that, we can undestand why you got a different impression than the rest of the world. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 20/2/20 12:19, "ietf en nombre de Khaled Omar" <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx en nombre de eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: I don't agree with this, transition means to move from something to another thing, the end result is full migration. Coexistence is a matter of time until full migration occurs, but as we don't know how long this will take, we must find a solution to let them coexist peacfully, as we cannot force people to move to IPv6, just to increase their awareness, and they have the right to accept or refuse, regarding IPv10, i think it didn't take the claimed opportunity either in the meeting or the mailing list, what i expected is to discuss it fairly, listen to the good voices, and then check the consensus, if yes, lets make it, if no, do we have another alternative, if yes, bye IPv10, if no, then lets make the best format of it and apply. From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel..es@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> There is no such migration, it is transition and coexistence, and if you think in how much took to reach the actual IPv4 levels of penetration, it still makes sense. We are in the right path. Anything else that we could try, will mean wasting more time and resources and money from those that already moved to IPv6 or are in their way, that we don’t have. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 20/2/20 11:33, "ietf en nombre de Khaled Omar" <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx en nombre de eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: Regardless the different %s, lets take the average one, it can not make us optimistic and stop thinking about a better solution, we should learn from the long time passed without full migration occured, if we will wait till that happens, the division will occur which is not good for the internet, lets welcome new ideas and give it the space, time, and opportunity fairly, if it will be good then welcome, if not, trash is made for this. From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> And you're missing several points about how those stats are looked at.
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