Hi, On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 02:02:37PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > perhaps "I don't think the IETF list is a good place to discuss the PIR > transactio" does not have the best cosmetics for a subject where folk > have expressed concern of discussion suppression. Please let me be perfectly clear. I am not trying to suppress discussion in any way. But there are three factors at play here: 1. The IETF list is supposed to be a list about IETF and the topics of direct relevance to its work. I have said, here on this list, that ISOC's commitment to IETF funding is in no way diminished by this proposed transaction and will continue whatever the outcome. Other than that, there is literally nothing about this transaction that has any technical implications at all. The IETF list would be an inappropriate list to discuss the corporate owner of the operator of .nl or .ca or .us or .biz or .info or .com. For the same reason, I cannot see even a little bit an argument for how the PIR transaction is on topic here, and I don't wish to distract the IETF from the important work it does. 2. There is in fact a list that has had a lot of traffic, and that is open to anyone here who wants to subscribe, where the topic is being discussed. Just as people often frown on cross-posting or (worse) "WG shopping" in the IETF, I think adding another list where discussion goes on will not help. 3. This is perhaps a more pragmatic reason, but I have limited capacity to follow the IETF list with great diligence, and I have been trying very hard to answer questions people have about this proposed transaction. To my chagrin, I no longer contribute in anything like a meaningful way to the IETF (admittedly, there are likely those who will say I never did), so I really just cannot keep up with IETF list traffic. If people wish to discuss the topic here on the IETF list, what is most likely to happen is that I won't be able to answer their questions in reasonable time. Other ISOC personnel are engaged in working on ISOC's efforts to build, promote, and defend the Internet. That's what we exist for, and I am not willing to pull them out of those efforts in order to follow a discussion here in a venue where I think the topic is not appropriate anyway (for the above reasons). Obviously, I can't police what people might talk about on the IETF list, and if you want to talk about this here and the SAA is prepared to allow it, go ahead. But _I_ don't think it's appropriate and you'll get better service if you ask questions on a different list. I hope that helps make my view plainer. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan President & CEO, Internet Society sullivan@xxxxxxxx +1 416 731 1261
