Re: IETF Policy on dogfood consumption or avoidance - SMTP version

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John C Klensin wrote on 15/12/2019 21:15:
It is whether there is consensus among IETF participants that
"the leadership" (I presume whatever bodies, individuals, or
their designees are relevant) should have the authority to
instruct the Secretariat to violate an IETF standard without
consultation of appropriate experts within the community
(presumably on relevant mailing lists), evidence of IETF rough
consensus, and/or Internet Drafts that specify alterations to
the relevant standard(s).
this is rather missing the point - or perhaps accepting the point - that there's a good deal of difference between defining a working protocol and running a production system which uses that protocol. The protocol will be defined by people who are good at defining protocols, but the system will be run by someone who knows how to run systems. Sometimes there is consistency between the two.

Currently it's expedient to drop domain literals in EHLO commands, but this is a policy practice of the operators rather than an integral function of the protocol itself. Codifying this in the protocol is roping in policy considerations and probably the line protocol is not the place to do this.

Nick




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