Re: [Tsv-art] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-dmm-pmipv6-dlif-04

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Hi Carlos,

thanks for the update.  I checked and, well, I was hoping for more than
just a few statements in the text reflecting my comments below.
Actually, I was wondering if some of the protocol mechanisms would need
updating to make sure that everything works.

Given that the target of the document is experimental, missing bits may
not be such a big deal, it is for experimentation after all.  Still, for
example, pacing could be spec'ed more precisely.  And I am not sure how
much you guys thought about security associations altogether (I am not
a security person and I don't play one on TV either).  The secdir review
provided other comments.  Are all those taken care of now?

Best,
Jörg

On 02.11.19 12:45, CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO wrote:
Hi Joerg,

We've just posted a new revision addressing your comments.

Thanks,

Carlos

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:24 PM CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:cjbc@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Thanks a lot Joerg for your very comprehensive review.

    We will carefully look at your comments and provide responses (with
    proposals of text changes) in the next few days. I prefer to take
    some time to properly address all your points.

    Thanks!

    Carlos

    On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:49 PM Joerg Ott via Datatracker
    <noreply@xxxxxxxx <mailto:noreply@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Reviewer: Joerg Ott
        Review result: Ready with Issues

        Hi,

        this document has been reviewed as part of the transport area
        review team's
        ongoing effort to review key IETF documents. These comments were
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        The draft defines extensions to Proxy Mobile IPv6 to support a
        more distributed
        variant of mobility management. In essence, as a mobile node
        moves from one
        point of attachment (Mobility Anchor and Access Router, MAAR) to
        the next,
        its routing prefix with the previous MAAR(s) remain(s) and
        ongoing transport
        layer connections remain active and routed indirectly via the
        previous MAAR,
        while new ones will use the present MAAR. The interactions of
        MAARs are
        managed via a Central Mobility Database (CMD).

        The draft is well written and good to follow, describing the
        protocols and
        extensions clearly. I just have two transport-specific concern
        and two general
        operational issues that require further clarification in the draft.

        The transport issues:

        T1. Section 3.2. When the CMD acts as a relay for Proxy Binding
        Updates (PBUs)
        and Proxy Binding Acts (PBAs), the CMD may act as a relay of a
        single PBU to
        multiple previous MAARs. If multiple previous MAARs exist, say
        k, (and there
        may be numerous in case of many fast handovers, e.g., with
        vehicular networks),
        the CMD creates k outgoing packets from a single incoming
        packet. This bears
        a certain amplification risk (which may also need to be
        addressed in the security
        considerations section) but it also may lead to packet bursts
        originated from the
        CMD, albeit to different targets. Other protocols start
        introducing pacing to avoid
        bursts on the outgoing link, even if the packets do take
        different paths in the end.
        This may be worthwhile considering.

        T2. Also in section 3.2, when relaying PBAs, the CMD serves as a
        transport or
        application endpoint and should have a way to deal with missing
        responses
        (after all, this is a connectionless protocol on top of an
        unreliable Internet).
        A timeout is only mentioned for aggregation, but even there
        there the timeout
        is not specified, nor is a reference to, e.g., RFC 5213 or so to
        infer a timeout
        used elsewhere.

        General issues:

        G1. Section 3.2 (again) specifies that responses are aggregated
        on p.10. How
        does response aggregation work? How is error handling done?

        Moreover, also on p.10, further below the draft states that if a
        timer expires,
        the requests already received are forwarded. The missing ones
        come later.
        This seems to contradict aggregation because the originator (the
        currently
        server MAAR) does not expect more than a single response if it
        sent out a
        single update. This may thus require updated processing in the MAAR.

        G2. Sect. 3.3 suggests that PBAs could be sent straight from the
        previous MAAR
        to the current MAAR. How does this work if security associations
        are supposed
        to be applied? It would seem that, when following the security
        considerations,
        such cases are not covered. At least, this would warrant further
        explanation as
        in this case we suddenly have three involved security
        associations, which would
        also need to be established.

        G3. Sect 3.5 discusses deregistration and suggests that this can
        only be done by
        timeout; I understand the rationale but can any risks arise on
        continued resource
        consumption (DoS attacks)?

        G4. Sect. 6.: As alluded to above, the security considerations
        may need expanding.

        Nits:
        p.12: "information are" -> "information is"
        p.12: "influence on" -> "influence"



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