What is IESG's plan for the statement discussed on the wgchairs list? https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/wgchairs/baCQkc6fIkja4z705-E2NG6bUvs The initial mail mentioned the date 2019/06/26. There are a lot of very good comments in this thread and I assume IESG will come with an updated statement at some point. It is great that IESG is thinking about this. The proposed statement is a big step in the right direction. I think this is a bigger topic than processes, this is about fundamental principles of the IEFT. I think IETF should have as a principle that people should be able to implement and analyze IETF standards without being limited by paywalls and other restrictions by the party hosting the specification. For specifications that includes security of any kind (which nowadays is most RFCs), open access is even more important as history has showed over and over again that lack of analysis often lead to serious weaknesses. I agree with earlier comments in the thread that also informal references SHOULD be open access. For normative references, I do not think it is enough that nobody in the WG objects. I think authors should have to show that there is no other reasonable solution other that referencing documents with restricted access. The more IETF is fighting for open access, the more documents will be open access. I would like to see the IESG make a bold statement embracing open access. John
