On September 13, 2019 4:44:46 PM GMT+02:00, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >At least one short-term consequence is that members of the >community who should be participating in the discussion wonder >if it is all a charade, note the volume of traffic and such >things as the dispute about the list on which the discussions >are held, and tune out. And others wonder whether that was by >design (whether effective or not). Wow. John have you been reading my mind? (again? Because the psycorp has rules about that). I certainly have been deleting entire threads at a time, and I guess others have too. I am reading your email by fluke on my phone, while waiting on the tarmac at Schipol for a computer swap on this plane. > So I suggest >that you ask (and, if necessary, plead and beg) Heather to >extend her commitment to the IETF and the RFC Editor function >for an extra six months (or whatever other period she and you Wow very good idea, and good backup plan too. >other side. Being told that the procedures prevent us from >using a creative and credible approach would, in the current >climate, certainly cause many members of the community that all >of this is about maintaining or expanding leadership body (or >personal) control, power, and/or authority. >[1] Well, I can, but I'm not aware of a reliable process for >consulting Jon Postel, Joyce Reynolds, or Bob Braden. Telnet 1.2.3.4 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.