On 2019-07-25 07:26, Bob Hinden wrote:
Elliot,
To respond to your first post on this topic, I think meeting three times a year in the current manner is fine. There is a lot of value in face to face meetings and I think they should continue.
+1
/Loa
Bob
On Jul 22, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi everyone,
From time to time we talk about changing our meeting modalities, and we certainly have done so a bit. Not so much the plenary, face to face meetings. For the last 28 years or so, we’ve been meeting three times per year (previously it was four!), and we will continue to do so for a while. But it’s at least possible that we could meet more effectively and maybe even with fewer plenaries.
Many of us travel great distances just to attend a handful of working groups, especially if we are specialized. And those working groups meet for an hour or two, and then modulo the hallway conversations, were done. Being perfectly frank about my own motivations, my daughter wants to know why I generate so much CO2, in what is all too fast becoming her generation’s greatest challenge, and our generation’s greatest shame.
Even so, I am not prepared to propose any particular recommendation, but rather find a way to get to that point through a concerted professional effort that is not performed on the ietf mailing list ;-)
And so draft-lear-we-gotta-stop-meeting-like-this asks the LLC *not* to change our meeting structure, but to bring in the right people to study it in consultation with the IESG, and then to come back with some recommendations for the community’s consideration. There are no timetables in the draft. That’s because this might take some time. And yes there are some financial impacts to be considered, not to mention human impact, not just on standards making, but on the valuable work being done at the Hackathon, and in other activities that colocate with us.
Anyway, have a read. See what you think. I’ll be mentioning this at a mic comment in the plenary.
Eliot
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