--On Thursday, July 4, 2019 08:38 -0700 Eric Rescorla <ekr@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >... >> A more substantive note or two follow, but I believe the above >> is important and it saddens me that it didn't come from >> someone in "the leadership". >> > > It's worth noting that Alissa said something that reads to me > as fairly close to this last Wednesday. > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/5Q3KQOBY5FQTxh_-abI > 4M_fepQU I read her note a little bit differently and the scope as much less broad, but yes, there is some overlap. Her note and Randy's comments that were ultimately along some of the same lines didn't seem to have had much effect. Perhaps the additional perspective in my note will. Probably we won't be that lucky, but I (and you, she, and Randy) can hope. john
